437 or 615?

In your opinion if you had to choose, which moment would you consider is a bigger step for NH?
437 - Hinatas confession or 615 - Holding hands (not sure how to describe it lol)

I feel both are significant, 615 I feel Naruto finally acknowledges her after realizing the meaning of Nejis death. However, personally I think 437 is the defining moment when she confessed.

What do you all think? (I tried to search to see if there was a discussion about this already and I didn't see one. Sorry in advance if it's a double post to another thread!)

You see, these two chapters are like one.

437 was a HUGE step for Hinata, she finally said something she wanted from the very beginning, she totally changed her character for this moment, just to try and save the one she loves, she risked her life for Naruto. This is something that nobody probably didn't expected, when was reading Naruto ongoing before 437. 437 is a huge NaruHina moment from Hinata's side.

615 is a huge NaruHina moment from Naruto's side. He finally took Hinata's hand and said, that his life was never one, because she was always by his side. This was almost a confession from Naruto's side, but in more manly way, in a way that suited to Naruto's character. Naruto finally confirmed, admitted that Hinata was always there for him, that it thanks to her he made it so far.

When you combine both, you get a NaruHina canonisation.

GreatKungLao wrote:You see, these two chapters are like one.

437 was a HUGE step for Hinata, she finally said something she wanted from the very beginning, she totally changed her character for this moment, just to try and save the one she loves, she risked her life for Naruto. This is something that nobody probably didn't expected, when was reading Naruto ongoing before 437. 437 is a huge NaruHina moment from Hinata's side.

615 is a huge NaruHina moment from Naruto's side. He finally took Hinata's hand and said, that his life was never one, because she was always by his side. This was almost a confession from Naruto's side, but in more manly way, in a way that suited to Naruto's character. Naruto finally confirmed, admitted that Hinata was always there for him, that it thanks to her he made it so far.

When you combine both, you get a NaruHina canonisation.

^This!

Irielo wrote:

GreatKungLao wrote:You see, these two chapters are like one.

437 was a HUGE step for Hinata, she finally said something she wanted from the very beginning, she totally changed her character for this moment, just to try and save the one she loves, she risked her life for Naruto. This is something that nobody probably didn't expected, when was reading Naruto ongoing before 437. 437 is a huge NaruHina moment from Hinata's side.

615 is a huge NaruHina moment from Naruto's side. He finally took Hinata's hand and said, that his life was never one, because she was always by his side. This was almost a confession from Naruto's side, but in more manly way, in a way that suited to Naruto's character. Naruto finally confirmed, admitted that Hinata was always there for him, that it thanks to her he made it so far.

When you combine both, you get a NaruHina canonisation.

^This!

agreed, this says it all

GreatKungLao wrote:You see, these two chapters are like one.

437 was a HUGE step for Hinata, she finally said something she wanted from the very beginning, she totally changed her character for this moment, just to try and save the one she loves, she risked her life for Naruto. This is something that nobody probably didn't expected, when was reading Naruto ongoing before 437. 437 is a huge NaruHina moment from Hinata's side.

615 is a huge NaruHina moment from Naruto's side. He finally took Hinata's hand and said, that his life was never one, because she was always by his side. This was almost a confession from Naruto's side, but in more manly way, in a way that suited to Naruto's character. Naruto finally confirmed, admitted that Hinata was always there for him, that it thanks to her he made it so far.

When you combine both, you get a NaruHina canonisation.

That is an awesome way to explain it :D

I agree with GreatKungLao, and as he rightfully mentioned, 437 was a big step for the H in NH while 615 was a big step for the N. So imo they were both just as important.

However since the confession came before, it can be viewed as, and I think it is, one of the things that got the gears in Naruto's head turning (started to open up his eyes) concerning Hinata, eventually leading us to 615. So if you look at it like that, 437 played an important role in 615 and as you said Kirmazah, can be the defining moment. Really because it is the moment that started the change in their relationship on Naruto's side, it got Naruto thinking about Hinata differently (the possibility of her being more than just a friend)...at least imo.  

I couldn't vote though I like them both too much

Chapter 437 and 615, both important moments in my opinion, one is where start to see NaruHina develop and the other which is another important step in the development of NaruHina.

which one did I consider more important? well the reason why I chose 615 was because Naruto made that moment in my opinion, 437 we knew it was bound to happen it pushed the story along nicely, but we needed something from Naruto, while we were waiting for sometime, I felt that 615 gave us what we needed.

51-mustang wrote:Chapter 437 and 615, both important moments in my opinion, one is where start to see NaruHina develop and the other which is another important step in the development of NaruHina.

which one did I consider more important? well the reason why I chose 615 was because Naruto made that moment in my opinion, 437 we knew it was bound to happen it pushed the story along nicely, but we needed something from Naruto, while we were waiting for sometime, I felt that 615 gave us what we needed.

I'm choosing 437 because I felt that 615 was bound to happen. I never thought Hinata would confess her love to Naruto in such a grand way. I thought she would finally muster up her courage and tell him quietly alone.
I think both are important but 437 made 615 happen.

Is this thread for real? Obviously 615!

Batokusanagi wrote:Is this thread for real? Obviously 615!

Haha   I just figured it would be a fun question to ask. Everyone is bringing up really good points!

Batokusanagi wrote:Is this thread for real? Obviously 615!

Nothing wrong about this thread my friend. I could not choose between those 2 chapters because 437 made me a NaruHina fan and I'm thankful for that and 615 blew up my mind because it was like a NaruHina canonization. So both are vey special to me and are very important. If Hinata did not confess in 437, Naruto would probably not have been even there to take her hand and to thank her the way he did in chapter 615.

98 - NaruHina beginning;
437 - NaruHina continuation;
615 - NaruHina conclusion.

98 - they both started getting closer to each other at the same time;
437 - Hinata made next huge step in their relationships;
615 - Naruto made his huge step towards Hinata's feelings and accepted it with a gentle smile, hands holding and words of gratitude.

kirmazah wrote:In your opinion if you had to choose, which moment would you consider is a bigger step for NH?
437 - Hinatas confession or 615 - Holding hands (not sure how to describe it lol)

Chapter 437 was foreshadowed in Part 1 and made abundantly clear that it would happen with chapter 282 when Hinata first appeared in Part 2 wondering about how she's going to approach Naruto. For those who didn't realize that she was talking about confessing her feelings, I tend to point out that Hinata was usually the one to talk to Naruto first throughout all of Part 1. Hinata has never been afraid to say "hi" to him. She was nowhere near that shy that she couldn't talk to him period.

However, no matter how Hinata has felt (which chapter 437 made abundantly clear to Naruto), Naruto has never been under any obligation to reciprocate. 615 is by far the bigger step because that's the one that implies that Naruto will return Hinata's feelings. The only step that will be a bigger deal will be the moment where Naruto does officially make it undeniable that he is interested in having a relationship with Hinata.

I'd go with 615

I say 437 because that's when NH became real, and not just a 'fickle' thing like you guys said lol. But I always supported NH from the beginning.

I will take both any day, they both played an important role in both character's development, 437 showed us how far Hinata has come and really pushed for her to become more confident as a character and not only that she is so confident that she has become more open with her feelings to Naruto.

615, shows again how much more confident Hinata has come as a character, not only that it also shows that Naruto is either starting to show signs of reciprocating Hinata's love for him, starting to show signs of falling in love with her if not already and lastly accepting it more.

both chapters are really important to NaruHina in many regards, now I only pointed out a small aspect, and I am certain that there is more to it that just the growing confidence of Hinata and Naruto showing positive signs of wanting to be with Hinata after this is all over. so I do consider those two chapters equal in that aspect, all due to the development that ensued afterwards.

^ I agree. With the important role, and Hinata as a character.

I go for chapter 615. Sure, Hinata's confession was a really big scenario and a great development for Hinata's character and for NaruHina - BUT the thing that Naruto took Hinata's hand and even thanked her for being at his side is a biiiig step to see, if Naruto got actually feelings for Hinata.
(Not to mention that NaruSaku thinks that he doesn't care 'bout Hinata and already forgot the confession for her), but since Naruto was even in a serious situation like this (Neji's death, etc) is a great thing :) And I mean, lol come on, he even realized that Sakura's confession was a lie, I mean, EVEN NARUTO COULD SEE THROUGH IT - if that doesn't mean something .. ;p
The thing is also which I need to mention: I think it's great that Kishimoto did let Hinata confess to Naruto first. It was the first time for him to hear the words "I love you" and see someone actually wanting to sacrifice their own life for him. He never experienced this feeling and when Kushina told about her and Minato sacrificing their life for him, he knew that she said the truth, while saying "I love you", while Sakura never did something really special which shows that she's willing to give her life for him. :) Though I like Sakura. ^.^

Oh man, I hate I had to choose between these two chapter! They both made me squeal like a little school girl. But I had to choose 615 just for the fact that Naruto initiated physical contact by grabbing Hinata's hand after all the things she said to him in order for him to get back and focus on the situation at hand. But I pretty agree with what has all been said in the previous posts.

I also agree with 437 being a surprise to me at least. I never would have figured that she would confess to him in such a way. Pretty much knew she was gonna confess but not like that. Ugh, they both are good!

Well I think he has started, but it isn't fully fledged feelings just yet, I would like to see what would happen (story time wise) in about 12 hours from now, I get the feeling that we will get a hint that makes 437 and 615 look even better.

437 aloud 615 too happen. Why? Because Hinata confessed her feelings. IMHO 615 would have been very weird had Hinata NOT confessed.

I pick 437. (437 also got me back into the series.)

Actually, chapter 615 would've been even more awesome if Hinata hadn't confessed at all. It would mean that Naruto was starting to choose Hinata without even knowing how Hinata felt.

Yamasaki Akaiko wrote:Actually, chapter 615 would've been even more awesome if Hinata hadn't confessed at all. It would mean that Naruto was starting to choose Hinata without even knowing how Hinata felt.

Yes, you are right and that's a very interesting way to see things too. But Hinata's confession was so beautiful as well and while confessing, she revealed how positive Naruto's influence has been so far in her life, how precious he was/is to her and how thankful she was. Naruto surprised eyes during Hinata's confession just showed that he was not expecting that someone loved him to that extent. I think such thoughts never came to his mind before, that's why he "needed" to hear these words "because I love you".